"CrossTalk: Start of the end?"
RT.com (January 13, 2023)
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/569729-ukraine-conflict-continue-west/

Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, never the smartest people in the room, warn that ‘time is not on Ukraine’s side.’ They are actually right, but for the wrong reasons. They are perfectly happy to see the Ukraine conflict continue.

CrossTalking with Lionel, Scott Ritter, and John Kavulich.
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[16:16] Peter Lavelle “… when this conflict comes to an end the Russians are going to make sure that it doesn’t happen for a very, very long time. Not two years, five years, or ten years. It’s going to be a lot more permanent than that.

[16:36] Scott Ritter “Absolutely. That is why there will be no negotiated settlement. Because a negotiated settlement implies compromise and there is no compromise. The chance for compromise was back in April when Russia was sitting down with the Ukrainians in Istanbul but Boris Johnson [UK Prime Minister] intervened on behalf of NATO to shut it down because NATO thought, wrongly, that Russia was weakened, that Russia couldn’t sustain this. They injected billions of dollars in an effort to pump Ukraine up and that has run its course.

The final elements of the 300,000 [mobilized reservists] have completed their training and are soon to be deployed. Russia has restructured its staff for large-scale warfare. Russia has restructured its defense industry. Russia’s economy is not suffering. The notion that, somehow, Ukraine can suffer more is ludicrous. Their economy is already dead, moribund. It’s on life support with American money. But as Condoleeza Rice and Mr Gates have alluded to, you remove that money and the Ukrainian economy dies.

General Armageddon, Surovikin, is being put in charge of a future air campaign that will destroy Ukraine as a modern nation-state. Understand this, the Russians have made it clear. The opening conditions still apply: de-militarization and de-Nazification. De-militarization is about to occur: the destruction of the Ukrainian armed forces. De-nazification occurs with the death of the Zelensky government. And that will happen at the hands of an aerial campaign, sustained, strategic in nature, that will destroy Ukraine as a modern nation-state. There will be no negotiated end. I don’t know how many times I have to emphasize this. In the end there will be a Tokyo Bay type solution. September 1945, the USS Missouri. The Russians will come up with something equivalent, and a defeated Ukraine will crawl and be compelled to sign a document of unconditional surrender. This is how it ends. Not because Russia wanted it to end this way, but because NATO forced Russia to seek this kind of solution.” [18:30]